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anonymoose -

Firstly, the forum member ala posted this a couple of years ago, with example sentences in
different tenses in Shanghainese:



Quote:

PERFECTIVE -coule
Chiecoule va? (Eaten yet?)
Vae chiecoule va?
Non Vae chiecoule va? (Have you eaten?)
Cintsau non Vae chiecoule va? (Have you eaten today?)

COMPLETIVE -thele
Chiethele va? (Finished/done eating?)
Vae chiethele va?
Non Vae chiethele va?
Cintsaughe Vae ne, non chiethele va?

SIMPLE PAST -laa
Chielaa va? (Ate?)
Vae chielaa va?
Non Vae chielaa va?
Cintsau non Vae chielaa va?

INITIATIVE -le
Chiele va? (Started to eat yet?)
Vae chiele va?
Non Vae chiele va? (Have you started to eat yet?)
Cintsaughe Vae ne, non chiele va?

PERFECT PROGRESSIVE -lahei
Chielahei va? (Have you been eating?)
Vae chielahei va?
Non Vae chielahei va?
Cintsaughe Vae ne, non chielahei va?

PRESENT PROGRESSIVE leila... -lahei
Leila chielahei va? (Are you eating?)
Vae leila chielahei va?
Non Vae leila chielahei va?
Cintsaughe Vae ne, non leila chielahei va?

NEAR FUTURE -chuaale
Non chiechuaale va? (Are you about to eat?)
Vae chiechuaale va?
Non Vae chiechuaale va?
Cintsaughe Vae ne, non chiechuaale va?

FUTURE weite
Vae weite chie va? (Will you eat the food?)
Non Vae weite chie va?
Cintsaughe Vae non weite chie va?

FUTURE PROGRESSIVE weite... -lahei
Gegnae Vae non mintsau weite ei chielahei va? (Will you still be eating this food tomorrow?)

FUTURE COMPLETIVE weite... -thele
Gegnae Vae non mintsau weite chiethele va? (Will you be done eating this food by tomorrow?)

FUTURE PERFECTIVE weite... -laale
Non mintsau weite chielaale va? (Will you have eaten by tomorrow?)

FUTURE DURATIONAL weite... -thehie
Non Vae weite chiethehie va? (Will you be eating for some time?)

What are the corresponding characters for these sentences? I find the romanization used here
rather confusing.

PERFECTIVE
今朝侬饭吃过勒伐？

Secondly, what are the Shanghainese sentence patterns for the Mandarin

把 construction
eg. How would you say 我把书放在了桌子上？

被 construction
eg. How would you say 我被狗咬了？

Are there any other sentence patterns that are unique to Shanghainese, or that at least don't
exist in Mandarin?



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flameproof -

Is there a romanization for SHnese? I doubt it....

However, Wiki has a few helpful hints & links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghainese










Yuchi -

I tried doing the characters for all those sentences but gave up

I'm fairly confident in the following, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.



Quote:

把 construction
eg. How would you say 我把书放在了桌子上？

The sentence is awkward but I think you mean "我把书放在桌子上了“

我拿书摆(?)来台子哴向了




Quote:

被 construction
eg. How would you say 我被狗咬了？

我拨狗咬了[一口] (for colloquial effect, it sounds less awkward)












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